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Google your medical records?

We "Google" for just about anything these days - why not "Google" our medical records, too?

Apparently, that's what may be just around the corner. Google and the Cleveland Clinic announced today they're now in the online health records market.

In a statement, the pair explained a pilot program they're launching that will enroll 10,000 or so Cleveland Clinic patients a nd have them test out using medical data like prescriptions, conditions and allergies through the clinic using a secure Google profile.
The goal, they say, is to eventually let patients access and interact with physicians and pharmacies anywhere. Which is a nice idea. Ask almost anyone who has switched hospitals or tried to get their records when they moved.

Since this last posted, Dr. Eric Seaver has weighed in on the topic. He is a physician at Group Health, where patients can now e-mail with their physicians.

He said the pilot prgram seems to answer to the very common problem of communication of information between patients and their providers, but it's not clear if it will also help make providers communicate with each other about common patients.

He said studies show that when doctors can't easily access a patien't prior medical records (including diagnostic testing results, laboratory results and medications previously prescribed to patients) it leads to duplicated tests (and unnecessary costs), inappropriate care (for example, delayed follow up on a prior abnormal test), and avoidable medication errors.

Right now, to get the prior records of a patient, the patient must first provide a signed release that has to be faxed or mailed to the other provider's office. That office pays staff to review this release, locate the paper chart (or electronic in more instances these days), copy the appropriate records, fax or mail them back to the requesting provider's office, where the records must be routed to the appropriate provider, who must then sift through pages of records to find the relevant information. It's a waste in time, money and staff and ultimately leads to inefficient care of the patient, Seaver said.

But the idea of electronic medical records isn't all that new. Many hospitals and medical groups across the country, including in Seattle, offer it in varying degrees, including being able to manage appointments online and e-mailing doctors with questions or concerns.

The idea that one can use their information anywhere is new and could have great potential. Security is huge, though. Preventing hackers from accessing someone's medical records like they access people's financial records (think identity theft) is a challenge. Security concerns have prevented some hospitals from moving forward in the electronic medical records arena as fast as they would like.

Seaver addresses safety this way:

The issues of safety and privacy are key with any electronic medical record system due to the extreme personal nature of health care and the legalities that govern the means by which information can be shared in the health care system. Legal changes approximately four years ago (HIPAA) provided new legal barriers to the sharing of patients' medical information. Though this clearly needs to be stated explicitly, HIPAA also lead to even more inefficiencies in the health care system. For example, a physician caring for a patient who recently had a normal cholesterol test could not leave a message on the patient's phone stating the tests were normal without the expressed, written consent of that patient. If you take the complexities of electronic communication of such information between various parties, the legal issues multiply.

In terms of overall safety of electronic medical records, they must be at least as safe as paper records to be successful. People often do not think about how unsafe paper records could be. In my example above in which a patient's records are sent from one office to another, you can add up the number of people who must physically handle the records. Multiple this by the thousands of patients in a primary care office and you see the potential problems with the safety of paper records. There is also no "paper trail" with paper records whereas secure electronic medical records do provide an increased level of accountability-it is possible to see who has accessed the information and when. In a system like the one Cleveland Clinic and Google hope to launch, the challenges in providing a secure system would appear to be much greater...Finally, patient empowerment is in an important benefit of electronic medical records and I think will ultimately play a large role in improving our nation's health care.

Dr. Ted Eytan, medical director of health informatics and web services at Group Health said there is a lot of great innovation happening nationwide.

He's currently a visiting fellow at the Center for Information Therapy and is in New York helping the state's health systems take the next step in making their electronic health records accessible to their patients using what he's learned and implemeted here in Seattle. His thoughts about the Google/Cleveland Clinic partnership:

We would like to see every patient in every care system activated and empowered with their own health information and access wherever and whenever care is needed. To that end, I'd welcome the innovation in portability and access in this initiative, among two organizations that provide great service to their customers. We obviously don't know the details of this program, but we'll watch carefully for those and keep doing what we do to adopt new innovation and develop our own to improve all of health care. You can count on that. Innovation is a virtuous circle...

Posted by at February 25, 2008 5:05 p.m.
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#100606

Posted by unregistered user at 2/21/08 5:13 p.m.

Wow, I cannot believe anyone would be so foolish as to put their medical records online knowingly. Google says that they will be password protected.
I'm sorry to have to rain on the parade, but passwords are only speed bumps and will not be effective in securing this type of data. Medical records also contain personally identifiable information and other information that would and could be used in identity theft. Others may actually want the medical information to use as direct marketing tools focused as those with a certain type of malady. On the darker side, theft of health information could also be used as evidence for insurance denial citing "pre-existing conditions". An even much darker side, may also be explored. What if someone hacked Google and obtained everyone's medical records and associated personally identifiable information and used it to build a bio-weapon. Prudence argues that there should be separation of information. Putting our health information on something as flimsy as a password protected website is insane.

#100622

Posted by Onyotaka Lukwe at 2/21/08 5:56 p.m.

Anything you see on the screen can be had.

Despite what they say, don't ever, EVER use the internet to access your medical data, particularly true if you have been troubled by stalking, internet or otherwise.

They need to stop pretending it's secure. It isn't.

#100636

Posted by unregistered user at 2/21/08 6:34 p.m.

Ditto to the above two posts. It's tragic how every step forward with new technology decimates another aspect of our privacy. Remember that wacky idea expressed in the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution? "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

This technology steps completely around that right because we no longer hold our papers. Who needs a warrant when they can just hack a website. Secure? Yea, right. Just like voting machines. Or credit information. No doubt this information will all be indexed by social security number, the de facto national ID number. Pure evil.

#100707

Posted by unregistered user at 2/21/08 10:02 p.m.

Luddites! Over the past 30 years, I've moved and/or changed jobs nearly a dozen times. I probably couldn't pull together my entire medical history if I hired a private investigator to do so. A couple of years ago I tried to get information about a prescription I had been on 5 years previous: the doctor had retired, the pharmacy closed, and the mega-drugstore chain that 'bought' the pharmacy's records had no entry for me. Health care is jacked in so many ways, and I'm confident that the smart folks over at Google can only help at least nudge it in the right direction.

#100728

Posted by unregistered user at 2/21/08 11:26 p.m.

word

#100769

Posted by unregistered user at 2/22/08 4:27 a.m.

What about banking? We all do online banking, right? And criminals have more reason to want to break into my bank account than to break into my health records.

#100919

Posted by Onyotaka Lukwe at 2/22/08 11:20 a.m.

The point is, there are many persons whom have no trouble whatsoever compromising your personal information, nor moral resistance to exploiting it. If everybody in the world likes everything you say, or, more likely, you never say anything, maybe you don't have to be concerned. Even then, if you internet associate with somebody whom has been controversial, it can make you a target, as well.

I know what I'm talking about.

#100945

Posted by unregistered user at 2/22/08 12:32 p.m.

I would sign up now if offered the chance!!

#100973

Posted by unregistered user at 2/22/08 1:26 p.m.

So long as they make me type in a 'code as shown' from an image -- not something google seems to do now -- then the automatic data mining could be foiled. Personally, I do not do anything that I care about at all online. I just tell 'em I do not have a computer.

#101077

Posted by unregistered user at 2/22/08 6:07 p.m.

I work for group health as a medical provider and I am a group health member. I recieve secure emails from clients. They love being able to email me and their doctor. I love the fact that I can email my own MD. Not all medical records are available online, but the online appointing, prescription requests, lab data, diagnostics and secure email is fantastic. I originially thought that banking on line seemed to make a person vulnerable to fraud. The more I use it, the more I love it. After reading the opinions of the some of the others before me, I have to wonder where their paranoia comes from.

#101094

Posted by Onyotaka Lukwe at 2/22/08 8:10 p.m.

Experience.

#101143

Posted by unregistered user at 2/23/08 12:45 a.m.

Face it. Your banking and medical records are online in systems that can be hacked by the most creative criminals. It's a done deal. Even if you telephone an order in and provide your credit card number, the person on the phone may be at home (or in prison) logged into a web site.

Frankly, I have done fine thank you very much without my own historic medical records. Worse, seems like I get asked all the same questions over and over again EVERY time I go to the doctor and they type it in the computer AGAIN. I finally just said - you already have that information on your system. They can't find it after they type it in?

#101144

Posted by unregistered user at 2/23/08 12:47 a.m.

By definition no email is secure.

#101175

Posted by unregistered user at 2/23/08 9:05 a.m.

Breeding dogs to be small and friendly is the devil's work.

Washing hands before delivering babies is unmanly.

Automobiles are going to kill all the pedestrian.

Calculators are going to make us forget how to do math.

Electronic medical records will _____________ (insert comments from above).

I know progress is difficult and I totally respect your right to opt out but please pull your head out of the dirt once and a while and think about how things might be better without all the what is this world coming to pessimism. What really kills me is that many of the people griping about a private company creating amazing new technologies are the same ones who seem to have no problem with forced confiscation of our money and personal information by the IRS. If you're concerned about privacy, that's where I'd focus.

#101197

Posted by unregistered user at 2/23/08 11:40 a.m.

Group Health uses a secure website to "email" between patients and care teams, nothing is sent through the internet without encryption between the browser and Group Health systems. 24x7 access to your physician is valuable to those of us with busy schedules and can't make the 8-5 hours in the medical center. I'd hate to think of what I'd do if I had a chronic medical condition and the schedule I have today without online access. It's healthcare when I want it, just like banking. The value is worth the risk for me.

#101263

Posted by unregistered user at 2/23/08 7:44 p.m.

The concept is good but this isn't utopia. Having medical records easily accessible through Google runs a high security risk to personal identity fraud - Identity fraud is not only financial records...someone can steal your medical records and use your insurance - so much that when you're in need, you might be denied medical assistance. GOOGLE IS GREAT BUT MEDICAL RECORDS EASILY ACCESIBLE ONLINE THAT IS NOT PROTECTED BY HIPPA LAWS IS TERRIBLY WRONG AND DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

#107063

Posted by unregistered user at 3/11/08 12:01 p.m.

Group Health uses a secure website to "email" between patients and care teams, nothing is sent through the internet without encryption between the browser and Group Health systems. 24x7 access to your physician is valuable to those of us with busy schedules and can't make the 8-5 hours in the medical center. I'd hate to think of what I'd do if I had a chronic medical condition and the schedule I have today without online access. It's healthcare when I want it, just like banking. The value is worth the risk for me.http://www.demekki.net

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