Posted by Nebula36 at 2/26/08 12:41 p.m.

That's great except that if you actually watch the video, the girl doesn't say they were discriminated against because they were "too pretty".

What she DOES say is that they were the only people who were young, and that they were the only people who looked like them. At the end she says they were discriminated against because of their "looks", which could mean looking young or looking more clean-cut than other passengers.

I'm not saying that these girls were angels, but how can the airline justify not serving water to customers, rude or not, out of turn like that?

Plus, I think the media is hyping the "pretty" tag line for their own purposes. Big surprise, huh!

Posted by unregistered user at 2/26/08 1:47 p.m.

Go ahead, pile on, Monica. The airlines are always in the right.

Posted by unregistered user at 2/26/08 2:09 p.m.

To Nebula 36 well they DID say "I think they were just discriminating against because we were young decent-looking girls. I mean, nobody else on the plane looked like us except us"
Other than that there are a lot of answered questions about this, but....its a pretty insignificant story so I really hope it goes into internet obscurity

Posted by unregistered user at 2/26/08 2:34 p.m.

Did anyone really listen to the interview? They were snotty, prissy, brats with no respect for anyone. They are self centered disgusting excuses for humans. Crying about not having water eh? How about the many who have NO RUNNING water? And if you really think the world revolves around your looks guess again. Times are changing and the Paris Hilton era is over. The golden rule stands, Treat others as you wish to be treated. And by the way, we all face discrimination from time to time, and don't require 5 minutes of fame either

Posted by unregistered user at 2/26/08 2:34 p.m.

That's so ridiculous. "Pretty" (or whatever word they may have used) people fly ALL THE TIME and haven't been "discriminated against" because of it so far, at least not to the public's knowledge (but it'd be pretty damn hard to keep it a secret if this were the case). I highly doubt ANY flight attendant in their right mind would ever discriminate against someone based on their looks... Not in the diverse industry that is air travel... No way!

As long as the young ladies were polite with the flight attendants, or with ANYBODY ON THE PLANET for that matter, they would have been treated in turn with the same respect. That's the way civilization works.

Posted by unregistered user at 2/26/08 2:36 p.m.

wow
I don't know whats dumber, the two girls, or the fact that this was somehow made into a top news story.

the girls aren't even pretty, I see far far better looking girls every time I fly.

that one girl has a hideous mole on her face that she apparently doesn't know how to cover up with makeup.

Posted by DAVIDRF at 2/26/08 3:41 p.m.

You know....usually when I fly, I think ahead and bring a bottle of water in my bag ON the flight with me after I've gotten through security. But maybe that would be asking these girls to exercise a bit of common sense....

I've never been treated rudely on any flights...if the girls got rude behavior, the odds are they did something to warrant it. That may be jumping to conclusions, but with a statement like the one made, they seem to think the world shoudl bow down to them because they're young and "pretty"....

Posted by Odessa at 2/26/08 3:52 p.m.

Often I've been asked to deboard flights because I'm too handsome. I usually bring some fake joke "rotten teeth" to wear, then they let me take my seat.

Have to plan ahead!

Posted by unregistered user at 2/26/08 4:05 p.m.

wow Monica, Linda's comments are *soooooo* comical- she should start writing for Letterman! It's a funny story but PI bloggers are to vapid to even capitalize on the innate comedy of the situation. I have yet to read anything on any PI blog that is comically or well written. Can't you write your own comments, or are you really so boring you have to cut and paste from other (boring) bloggers.

Posted by unregistered user at 2/26/08 4:08 p.m.

I read the whole article and they did say they were discriminated against for their "decent" looks... Wow, those girls seem like truly despicable, wretched, miserable excuses for human beings, regardless of their physical appearance. Spoiled snotty attitudes are sickeningly repulsive and instantly cancel out any physical beauty anyone might have.

Posted by beachfire at 2/26/08 4:14 p.m.

I watched the video. They aren't really that pretty. They are just young girls that think they are. They will truly learn how unfair life is when, in 20 years, their husbands trade them in for trophy wives when they are 40 and have no skills to offer.

Posted by beachfire at 2/26/08 4:18 p.m.

Oh, btw, they won't be any prettier than they are now when they are 40. lol.

Posted by unregistered user at 2/26/08 4:49 p.m.

For the past 12 years I've been on a flight almost every week since back when I was in college, about the same age as these girls. I've been seated next to Celebs, Pro Athletes, Soldiers, Kids, Seniors and everyone in between. I've had bad food, long delays, great and not so great flight crews as has everyone else on those flights. I've heard a lot of complaining and but I've never seen someone taken off the plane for conduct, I know it happens but it takes a lot to get there. Sounds to me like these "decent looking girls" have a decent amount of disrespect for others and made a decent sized mistake when they thought the flight attendants where waitresses that they could intimidated with a idecent attitude. Decent Looking Result!

Posted by unregistered user at 2/26/08 5:15 p.m.

and the warty thing on the brunettes chin is just~~~~HOT~~~~~ LOL Both of them need to get over themselves!!!

Posted by steve.body at 2/26/08 5:42 p.m.

Who told them they were decent looking? Two more completely generic, cookie-cutter little self-absorbed brats. Ho hum.

Posted by ravetek at 2/26/08 7:34 p.m.

It's not widely discussed, but airlines do have policies for this. Gate agents and attendants regularly prohibit people from flying due to dress code. It can be as simple as a T-Shirt, baggy pants in first class, too much skin, etc...

IMHO it is stupid. The airline had better have a damn good reason to throw off a paying customer. As to the "disturbance" it was likely the customer simply disagreeing with the attendant over dress and/or the stupid situation.

History doesn't like. Their are a million good reasons why the airlines are as regulated as they are. Once again, an instance whereas they should have to file a report with the FIA so their is some external over sight for crap like this.

Posted by unregistered user at 2/27/08 11:56 a.m.

After seeing them on TV last night, I feel sorry for the airline staff. I an sure the girls were rude to the staff and maybe to other passengers as well. I have seen much prettier girls flying on the plane without any problems. Someone needs to tell these teens to grow up and start behaving like civilized human beings.

Posted by unregistered user at 2/28/08 4:20 a.m.

These chicks are obviously clueless hoes. I can only imagine what type parents raised these gems.

Posted by unregistered user at 2/28/08 4:25 a.m.

Oh, btw, they won't be any prettier than they are now when they are 40. lol.

When those tarts are 40 they're going to be the type of scary skanks that make children cry, dogs bark, and flowers wilt.

Posted by unregistered user at 2/28/08 6:57 a.m.

A: Flight attendants ignore two girls while serving other passengers.
B: Girl needs to go to the bathroom and there's ONE and the door is still locked 15 minutes after girl walks up. Girl finally knocks.
C: Guy finally comes out, goes over to her and cusses her out. She cusses back.
D: Guy is not even questioned, girls are removed from flight by the FBI (??!!) and interrogated. And have to look for another way home.
E: Airline shows a case of DoubleSpeak by doing this while their spokesperson publicly says they can't even do that.
F: Girls do not use the phrase "too pretty", media does. Sarcasm about the girls' opinions of themselves ensues.
And that isn't discrimination? If they had been a member of ANY other minority everyone would say so. MeeeOWWW.

Posted by unregistered user at 2/28/08 5:32 p.m.

And that isn't discrimination? If they had been a member of ANY other minority everyone would say so.

What minority? ? ? ?
Women outnumber men in the U.S.

Posted by unregistered user at 3/1/08 1:09 p.m.

Nasreen, some kind of Arab name, possbily. Maybe Lebanese, Syrian, possibly Palestinian. Sounds like a Christian name but this is just a guess. I assume this is the minority #102719 is referring to.

The blonde doesn't count as a WASP, I guess. Although, I think WASPs could be considered minorities these days.

Posted by unregistered user at 3/1/08 1:18 p.m.

I just did a little research. It is not Nasreen for Nazarene. It is Nasreen/Nasrin A flower (a wild rose). It is a Persian name. Persian = Iranian. I guess this is the minority. Sorry, I missed this part of the melting pot theory. Did not know they were minorities. They are caucasion. Maybe it is a religious minority? Ah, Muslim. I got it.

Posted by unregistered user at 3/1/08 1:54 p.m.

Nebula, I don't know what you mean by 'clean cut'? Do you think most passengers were sloppily dressed or had messy hair, etc? I think the girls were dressed very sexy, from the pics, and that can seem nice to some, but clean cut doesn't have to be sexy, just clean and nicely dressed, put together, not really have to look sexy to look clean cut. Even older people can look clean cut and sharp.

I think the girls really thought they were the hottest mostly because they seemed to be the 'youngest' or at least that's what one of the girls said anyway. Read the article below. So they felt the flight attendants were 'jealous' of them because they were older than they were. Usually when women are catty about being younger, it's all about 'looks', and they see looking youthful as prettier, better, more desirable.
Besides in the video, the brunette does say she thinks she was discriminated because of her looks. Maybe the media threw in the word 'pretty' but when the girls kept saying they were the only ones that looked like 'us', and they were probably jealous because we were younger, what does that mean? Not that they had better clothes or more expensive hairstyles, etc. but they thought they look better or more attractive simply because they were younger. To me youth is not always correlated with beauty, but lots of young people do think youth= pretty or beautiful, and old= ugly.

"I think they were just discriminating against because we were young decent-looking girls. I mean, nobody else on the plane looked like us except us," she said. "[The flight attendants] were like older ladies. We were younger. Who knows, they could have been just jealous of us because we were younger."

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=74549

Posted by unregistered user at 3/1/08 2:41 p.m.

I fully imagine the problem those young ladies had was because of their looks. My girlfriend was treated terribly as well only because of her looks and you are left helpless. I have seen this type of woman to woman behaviour by airline stewardesses in the past. This is the airlines fault as well. This seniority baloney is sick in America where you have grumpy old ladies and half of them completely out of shape. I pay good money for my flight. What happen to the days when you had the decent stewardess and not the one that makes you loose your appetite.

Posted by unregistered user at 3/1/08 3:01 p.m.

Please, they weren't even that pretty. Check out the brunette in her video, she looks just average w/o makeup, even a little chubby in her face and body.
I hardly think they are the hottest women that the flight attendants have ever seen. I've seen much better looking women in Florida and elsewhere.
Besides, why would the flight attendants be jealous of bratty rude teenagers?

Posted by unregistered user at 3/2/08 4:59 p.m.

My opinion on this whole debacle:

1. I have seen some *REALLY ASSANINE* moves on the part of some airlines - Really! If any other business treated its customers the way many airlines do, they'd be outta business so fast it would make your head spin! Oh - that must explain the many bankruptcies...

2. *From what I have seen* (which is, admittedly, almost entirely confined to these two ditsy dames and their stand-up comedy routine about being the hottest thing on four planets), they believe they were descriminated against.

What I'd like to know is this: Where are the interviews of the other passengers on the flight? What about the "federal marshalls" that are supposedly on every flight? We get one side of the story and a stereotypical corporate denial, and we're supposed to form an opinion?!

Re: Descrimination.
Ladies, please point out to me any one person on this planet who has NOT been descriminated against at one time or another. Hells bells!! *I* have seen it coming more than twice...

Re: "Too Pretty".
Word of the day: "Narcissism". Really! I would humbly suggest that these two ladies take a look at this in any decent dictionary.

As a man of (ahem!) "a few years" experience, I have seen all kinds... Pretty, ugly, plain, exceptional, etc.

I knew this one woman... Ugly enough to stop a clock - but she had a heart of gold. She'd give you the shirt off her back, the shoes off her feet and her last $10 if you needed it. She was such a pleasent person to be around that, after about 15 seconds, you totally forgot about her apperance. When she got married, people joked about how much her parents must have bribed the groom... but I know differently. That man is probably one of the luckiest men alive.

I've known absolutely winning women too - marvelous apperance, "Body By Fisher", built like a battleship and gets a 21 gun salute... Invariably they are either vapid beyond belief or so vain that they think their (***) doesn't stink...

Bottom line:
We really DO NOT KNOW what actually happened on that flight - and if the media has it's way, we may never find out. Unfortunately, these two ladies don't strike me as the most confidence-building witnesses...

I'd really like to hear something from the other passengers before I pass judgement....

Jim
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Posted by Jimmy Jubes at 3/8/08 2:37 p.m.

When I first heard this story I was like, "stupid #@# probably work at a cosmetic counter and think they are better than flight attendants." But then I caught an interview with Sarah Williams and thought maybe the media, in efforts to sell a story dubbed "Too Pretty Too Fly", distorted the facts enough to mislead the public. After all they had an airline with a track record.
After my interview with Sarah Williams I had come to the conclusion that it was a catty power trip by flight attendants that may have caused these girls harm, cost one of them their job and wasted the time of the FBI and Police. They were picked on from the start and Sarah admits she had exchanged a swear word with a passenger but it was provoked by the flight attendant and over with.(She and two other females were waiting for the bathroom-she knocked hard on the door. When the guy came out he asked the flight attendant what the problem was and the flight attendant said "It was that little blond girl".He called her a @$ she called him one back.) "I couldn't figure out why they didn't like us. When we came in my friend asked for a water and they snapped 'No go take a seat' and then when they passed out water they skipped over us. And after the incident with the gentleman was over they interrogated us about it to make a scene that wasn't a scene." As far as her being threatening, I hardly believe anyone feels that is the case. The female FBI agent who questioned her gave her a hug and said Southwest wasted the FBI's time.
Sarah seemed most upset that the media had portrayed her as conceded. She stated the media asked her what she looked like (in an obvious attempt to capitalize on past Southwest encounters) and she responded "young and decent' and when they asked about the attendants "older and not like us". I personally don't know how anyone could find that offensive and under the circumstances I think they might of been kind.How would you describe them if you were in their shoes? I do however can see how anyone who knows a female who flies, has a sister who flies, mother who flies may be offended that airline can blacklist you so you can't get a flight for five days out of a LA when you live in Florida over as I stated before a catty power trip regardless of the attitude the girls may or may not have had. I think all involved are happy nothing happened to her while she was stranded.
Finally, this case is not like the girl who was told to cover her crotch because it was lewd. It is a story of mistreatment and unprofessional employees who do not know the meaning of customer service. An over reaction that happens many times to pretty and not pretty people. If you did to customers at your job what they did you would be fired. And if it was Ivanka Trump instead of an administrative assistant this had happened to you can bet Southwest would have given a formal apology and compensation.
You can hear clips of the interview on the Jimmy Jubes Show at 7pm Eastern 4pm Pacific on Talkradiox.