Posted by GAME at 11/3/08 2:35 p.m.

If everyone was armed, it would reduce crime. That doesnt mean that some wouldnt still try, and that it wouldnt be a bloody few years as the criminals slowly got the point.

But they would get the point. Its been proven time and time again in cities that require gun ownership. Criminals are lazy cowards, and dont like the idea of John Q Public being able to defend themselves.

Posted by unregistered user at 11/3/08 2:36 p.m.

Guns-whether they do or do not cause or prevent crime, I want to be able to protect myself and my loved ones from predators, human, animal or snake. It is my right of self-protection, at home or out-and-about. Be it with gun or sword or knife.

Posted by tailwind at 11/3/08 3:33 p.m.

Kerlikowski has his own gun stolen and says:

"...I was a victim just like a lot of other gun owners, and I certainly should have been far more careful"

I guess he never should have had the gun on the first place. That was the subject of the debate, wasn't it?

Why does a police chief need to carry a gun in his car?

I read the trasncript of the debate and it was pretyy clear that the proponents of fewer guns equal less crime didn't have the statistics to back up their assertions.

Posted by Kraziken at 11/3/08 6:39 p.m.

The folks who want to limit gun circulation is trying to make the world safer. I think that is misguided.

Limiting firearms takes away an individual's rights to make that choice for themselves.

Posted by whidbey.us@gmail.co at 11/3/08 7:19 p.m.

You have to wonder about the wisdom of the Seattle politicians who hired an avowed anti gun police chief that works in a state that has strong state constitutiona protections for firearm owners.

You would think that because firearm ownership is one of the rights reserved to the people in our countries Bill of Rights and in our state Constitution that we would not have a police chief in one of out major cities that does not appear tro support our rights.

SECTION 1 POLITICAL POWER. All political power is inherent in the people, and governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, and are established to protect and maintain individual rights.

SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.

Posted by unregistered user at 11/3/08 8:02 p.m.

GAME: What cities are you talking about that require gun ownership?

"Its been proven time and time again in cities that require gun ownership. Criminals are lazy cowards, and dont like the idea of John Q Public being able to defend themselves."

Posted by Demonwolf at 11/3/08 8:44 p.m.

What a DUMBASS!! I cannot believe this guy left a loaded Glock where someone could steal it. And this needlehead is running our police force!? Well, maybe that tells why the SPD is a sub-par agency across the board. It's not about whether or not the criminals are more afraid to victimize potentially armed people Ñ it's about giving people the power to preotect themselves and their families when they do.

Posted by unregistered user at 11/4/08 10:47 a.m.

Criminals, politicians (redundant, I know...) and crooked cops (again with the redundance) all have something common. They prefer their victims unarmed. Every decent cop I've known personally has been anti-gun control (I live in CA no less). Criminals are keenly concerned with who might be carrying their own defense, and politicians are too busy retaining their heads up their elitist butts to consider allowing the lowly citizen to have the same rights that they enjoy.

Congress passed the police officers safety bill. Well were in the blazes is the CITIZEN'S safety bill? What threat do off duty officers face that I do not?

If every law abiding citizen who wishes to carry a gun does so, you'll never hear a shot fired.

If you believe that more guns leads to more violence, then you assume that the vast majority of society are violent criminals and for that I recommend professional help.

More children die from drowning that from gun shots. Lets ban pools and water buckets. Never mind the innumerable benefits children have from being raised with a pool, if it will save so much as a single child, fill every pool with concrete and make it a felony to have one and issue exemption licenses to the rich and famous. That way those ordinary citizens don't dare endanger their children by exposing them to a pool.

Get the idea?

Posted by Germain Katanga at 11/4/08 11:02 a.m.

Outlaw guns and you will just get a situation like in London, England, where there is a rampant epidemic of knife-stabbing crimes (overwhelmingly committed by blacks) going on right now. Sorry PC ninnies, it's just a FACT.

Posted by unregistered user at 11/4/08 12:41 p.m.

This is fron the Declaration of independence, the second paragraph
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world"

so from this I believe if obama and his cronies in congress tries to start their Socialist ideals and ban guns, We the people have the right and duty to take up arms and kick them out!!!

Posted by beirdo at 11/4/08 1:27 p.m.

GAME said: "Its been proven time and time again in cities that require gun ownership."

Are you getting fantasy mixed up with fiction? Name one city that requires gun ownership. Just one.

Posted by unregistered user at 11/4/08 4:28 p.m.

GAME said: "Its been proven time and time again in cities that require gun ownership."

beirdo replied: "Are you getting fantasy mixed up with fiction? Name one city that requires gun ownership. Just one."

How about Kennesaw, Georgia. Granted, it's not a city, but the point is made.

Posted by unregistered user at 11/4/08 4:47 p.m.

Police Chiefs, even those who came up from the ranks, are Politicians first and LEOs as an afterthought. They are usually appointees of their municipality's political machinery and thus, must reflect the attitudes and objectives of his handlers at City Hall, too many of whom are anti 2nd amendmant, lest he be relegated to writing parking tickets in downtown. But, this boob portraying himself as a "victim" then giving it a spin to bolster his anti American talking points will only fool the useful idiots that maintain the Liberal/Socialist status quo. As the top LEO, it would at least be expected that he lead by example and be held to high standards regarding firearm handling. Leaving your service weapon in your vehicle in a manner which allows for its easy theft fails any standard. Also, Chief Gil's continuing travels as a member of the Elitist Moonbat Anti Gun Club actually violates the part of the oath of his office regarding the upholding of the U. S. Constitution. He must of missed the last memo from the Supreme Court.

Posted by unregistered user at 11/4/08 8:36 p.m.

Both barney fife and the mayor need to go, they are not leaders, they are politicians and we need to start getting these types of people out of office.

Posted by unregistered user at 11/4/08 10:22 p.m.

Those who live glockless in glass houses should'nt be able to tell others who live in houses with glass windows that they cant have glocks.

Posted by unregistered user at 11/4/08 11:17 p.m.

What do you expect Mayor Nickels his boss had to be told by the Attorney General that he couldn't make his own rules and ban handguns in contradiction to state law.

Posted by beirdo at 11/5/08 8:30 a.m.

In regards to post #210735: I had never heard of that before. Interesting. I was thinking GAME meant actually packing, but in review he didn't say that.

Posted by Jagermann at 11/9/08 1:01 a.m.

beirdo said: "Are you getting fantasy mixed up with fiction? Name one city that requires gun ownership. Just one."

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Gun Ownership Mandatory In Kennesaw, Georgia. Crime Rate Plummets.

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