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Microsoft's Allchin: Why I said I'd buy a Mac

"I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft."

That was the very unexpected declaration made by Windows chief Jim Allchin in a January 2004 e-mail to Steve Ballmer and Bill Gates, as quoted by Groklaw and picked up by Computerworld and others. The previously undisclosed e-mail was introduced as evidence last week in Microsoft's antitrust trial in Iowa.

Now, in a blog post responding to the coverage, Allchin cautions against taking the statement out of context and writes that he "was being purposefully dramatic" to make a case for a major overhaul of the Windows development process. In the 2004 e-mail, Allchin wrote that he saw "lots of random features and some great vision," but he warned that the Windows teams had lost their way.

Allchin says in his explanatory post that the company made the necessary changes. And he takes the opportunity to make a pitch for the result, Windows Vista, describing it as "far, far better than any other software available today."

Presumably that means the Seattle-area Apple Stores shouldn't be looking for a surprise customer anytime soon. Nevertheless, Steve Jobs suddenly has an eye-catching quote to add to his slides for next month's Macworld keynote.

Posted by at December 11, 2006 11:32 p.m.
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#18715

Posted by unregistered user at 12/12/06 1:34 p.m.

Interesting.

"far, far better than any other software available today."

I'd be interested to know what his definition of 'better' is.

#18725

Posted by unregistered user at 12/12/06 3:11 p.m.

"Better" means that it's made by his employer rather than a competitor, obviously. What other definition is there when you're an executive?

#18728

Posted by unregistered user at 12/12/06 3:14 p.m.

I'm pretty sure his defition of better means "superior to another" and far, far better refers to the fact that Vista is far, far better than the competition.

#18750

Posted by unregistered user at 12/12/06 8:43 p.m.

Whoa...wait a minute...we're talking about M$ here. So I'd have to go with the definition before yours. ;-)

#18765

Posted by unregistered user at 12/13/06 5:12 a.m.

I'd be interested to know what his definition of 'better' is.

Thought that would be obvious after all the years Mircosoft has been in service. Just another security update that frustrates users, whom disable the feature as it's main purpose is to nag you like your mother.

I am a Apple addict however am forced to use this so called product in the office and must say I have very disappointed and amazed in how "similar" things are to Mac OSX. At least they got the "how to copy another company's idea's" down correctly.

#18769

Posted by unregistered user at 12/13/06 7:35 a.m.

Coming from a Mac Addict I would expect something as small minded as that to come a Mac addict. to be honest your opinion doesn't really mean anything as you stated your a Mac addict (Don't no why) so all you would do is shoot down any other OS not just MS, Mac's are nothing more that over priced desk lamps. I own one I have to work on one and not to my liking AT ALL which our company will be changing to a windows Based machine much much much to my liking. Mac's are horrible machines, extremely slow, they have barely any support, the only thing they are good for as shooting out the window. You are more than likely one of these people that go round telling consumers that Macs are invulnerable to virus's just like every other Mac user miss informing people about the security of Mac machines. Windows has and always will be fare more superior over Mac's hence %92 of the world's computer's us it. Maybe just maybe if OS/X was used half as much as windows you would really find out how many holes there is in it. Just like we are finding out now slowly but surely they are getting hacked and getting Virus's much to my liking. Teach you all lesson

#18774

Posted by unregistered user at 12/13/06 8:27 a.m.

Oh please, I've heard all this Mac's are someday going to be vulnerable to viruses junk for a long time - keep dreaming. MS Vista is a bloated resource hog. During a MS demonstration at my institution last May, the Toshiba laptop with a Core Duo had a difficult time rendering Vista's graphics. My MBP Core Duo runs OSX very fast and XP (through Parallels) faster than any PC I've ever used.

MS is nothing but a collector of money and has given virtually nothing to computing innovation - see http://www.mcmillan.cx/innovation.html. They just buy other's innovations and make money. Its a smart business but is worthless for innovation. Their products are far behind OSX and Linux. Vista has nothing that I have not been using for the past five years.

I'm not a Mac addict, I'm a good software addict!

#18781

Posted by unregistered user at 12/13/06 9:09 a.m.

To unregistered user #18769...

I too consider myself a Mac addict. So I must defend a little bit here. Just because alot of us like Macs - it does not mean that we blindly like macs. Your statement "so all you would do is shoot down any other OS not just MS" is incorrect. I believe Mac is superior to Windows for the Tasks I perform. If I was a big gamer and felt the need to have the absolute latest game immediately when it comes out, I'd use Windows. As far as OS's go, I have no problems with Linux - and feel Ubuntu is extremely good. You also mentioned something about Macs have no support. Obviously you don't have to work on your Mac very much, because to make that statement you've never had to call Apples support department. Out of now 10 years of using Macs, I have had to call them on 2 occasions - both times the tech was quick and very helpful.

It seems to me, while I as a Mac addict can be objective and point out the shortcomings of my favorite OS - as well as the strong points of other OS's - - Windows, it does have informative error screens most of the time. You seem to have a hard time saying ANYTHING good about anything other than Windows. Which is sad. I'd take DOS 6.22 over Windows anyday - it worked, much like my current Mac. Geos in it's day was very good. And before Windows 95, I actually liked Windows 3.1. I have used many OS's throughout the years both command line and GUI. And at this moment in time, if looked at objectively I think most people would see the Mac OS X as superior to Windows.

As far as Marketshare - just because not everyone drives a lamborghini means that those cars suck. They're very good indeed! Sometimes there's no accounting for taste though. I have a friend that has always bought PC's. He always has problems, OS and App crashes, virus's and spyware you name it. I've tried to talk him into a Mac forever. He finally came over to my place so that I could show him my Mac. He was extremely impressed. Said he's gonna go by a Mac as soon as possible. About 2 weeks later he called me up - said he bought a new computer. I asked "what did you get" - he said an HP for $400.00 - and that the guy in the store said it was even better than the Mac you recommended. (I recommended one of the new Core2duo macs 1.83 Ghz - the HP is a freakin celeron). Sometimes there is no accounting for people who simply no nothing about computers and only look at price. You get what you pay for, and that statement holds ever so true in computers.

#18783

Posted by unregistered user at 12/13/06 9:35 a.m.

Apple today has about 4.3% worldwide marketshare - Dell and HP are still on top with each having about 17% worldwide marketshare. I believe the latest figures shows Apple about 5th or 6th among about 50 computer makers for worldwide marketshare. That's not too bad for a company who's computers are on average more expensive than their competitors. Do a search on Google if you want to confirm my figures (I just did that's how I got these numbers).

As for OS obviously Windows has the largest Marketshare of all Operating Systems. But I don't think that's saying much. Try asking non computer geeks what version of windows they have - most have no idea. It's just the OS that came on their computer when they bought it. It wouldn't matter to them what OS it was, as long as it was the cheapest computer they could get. And seeing as how MS has had tactics to make it so that major computer manufactures could ONLY pre-install windows - that's a big part of why Windows dominates. I don't think MS still does that, I believe they had to stop that.

Imagine if Apple decided to license OS X to any manufacturer. Dell has already expressed an interest in installing OS X on their computers. I wonder how long it would take for Windows to fall to about 60% marketshare if the biggest computer manufacturer (in terms of marketshare) in the world started selling OS X. It would be at least interesting to see how Windows would fair against real competition then!

#18784

Posted by unregistered user at 12/13/06 9:57 a.m.

Even if they did license OS X I don't think it would do well, I really don't, I only wish it was as popular as MS and then we would really so how bad the security is on that system, I have tested Vista and I and found no memory Hog problems, it ran fast and smooth, so you were obviously doing something wrong or had it set up in correctly.

#18791

Posted by unregistered user at 12/13/06 10:57 a.m.

to #18774
why would you use Parallels, VMWare is a much better VM server than Parallels ever will be. VMware supports virtualization hardware, so that you can have direct access to your CPU and memory, (well memory on AMD systems seeing how intel still doesnt have an intergrated memory controler)
BTW, im not a Windows fanboy, nor am i an Apple fanboy, or even a Linux fanboy. I think every OS sucks in its very special little way.

#18947

Posted by unregistered user at 12/14/06 1:37 p.m.

Windows Software drives innovation. Especially when 90% of all desktop software appears on a PC and then 5% of that 90% is reproduced for the Mac.

Innovation comes from the Software Developers and us demanding new features. Why is Windows Superior? Developers choose to make it that way.

Macs are good for parts in EE lab classes...

#19583

Posted by unregistered user at 12/21/06 7:46 p.m.

macs suck, pc will always be better. people who buy macs are typically not computer savy. it took the artards at apple a long time to finally mimic windows system restore feature.

#20948

Posted by unregistered user at 1/10/07 7:27 a.m.

"people who buy macs are typically not computer savy."

Judging from the semi-literate anti-Apple comments in this thread, I'd say people who buy pcs are not English-savvy. :)

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