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DRM suit: Microsoft v. 'Viodentia'

Microsoft has filed suit against "viodentia," the pseudonym for the person behind the FairUse4WM technology for stripping digital-rights management restrictions from Windows Media files. See coverage of the suit by CNet News.com and an earlier interview with "viodentia" by Engadget.

Here's a copy of the complaint, filed in U.S. District Court in Seattle: PDF, 6 pages. Among other things, the company is seeking to use subpoenas to identify the people behind the technology. In this filing, PDF, 6 pages, the company says that process will take 120 days, "assuming timely responses to its subpoenas."

Posted by at September 27, 2006 12:23 p.m.
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#13389

Posted by unregistered user at 9/27/06 2:12 p.m.

it's not viodentia's fault microsoft programmers program like little kids. Microsoft has billions of dollars but yet they can't spend money on highly encrypted software. companies who trust microsoft with their media content are ridiculously ignorant. reverse engineering software is not illegal, it is considered learning. microsoft you should go find new programmers and try to offer viodentia a high paying job at your company and drop the law suit.

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#13390

Posted by unregistered user at 9/27/06 2:14 p.m.

If I am following the bellowing from Seattle clearly, some kids want to play the music they bought / rented / stole / whatever on their other boombox (the one without the 21" display) so someone created a way for them to do that. Sounds like market forces at work to me. Hey, isn't that the mantra at Microsoft? Oh wait, maybe "market forces" is a phrase only monopolies are allowed to use. It's all very confusing ... which is why I stopped buying music altogether. There hasn't been much to listen to anyhow since the last Paul Overstreet CD came out.

It is unfortunate that Microsoft is not this diligent with their software and operating systems. If they had been, there is little chance that virii, spyware, and the like would have ever become a problem. Perhaps it is also a marketing thing?

#13395

Posted by unregistered user at 9/27/06 3:43 p.m.

Let's stop Digital Restrictions Management (DRM).I do recommend everybody to stop using DRMed files.In fact Microsoft trojanizes your PCs against you.Updating DRM in Windows Media Player is like bringing new handcuffs for you if your old handcuffs get broken and you feel freedom.

Really there is only one FAIR way: watermarking.It does not restricts your LEGAL rights but still can track pirates down.DRM is kinda ba$tardized thing known as Digital Restrictions Management.

#13396

Posted by unregistered user at 9/27/06 3:55 p.m.

here's what everyone should do... boycott microsoft! why every business isnt already on a linux-based esktop system is beyond me.... and as for the DRM problem... spend a hundred dollars on a better audio card and RECORD your files as mp3's while you listen to them... no cracking required. if you can hear it, you can have it.

been using microsoft's os since MSDOS 3.00, but with vista's release coming soon, i've ditched.

#13401

Posted by goaliethslinger at 9/27/06 6:48 p.m.

"unregisters user"'s last post remind me of the commercials telling people not to vote with various faces saying or shouting "DON'T VOTE" but then again, blaming the voting machines on the candidates we place...into Office.

Your advocating boycotting microsoft is as if you blame this company for your problems with all business machines.

Cheers to all the 'softies for the capacity to improve the local environment, ROTFL @ the site of the goat photo on today's PI, but should the gov't be in charge of what we eat regarding "trans fats" is NO. Look what they did with liquor and cigarettes, way back in time even to the Native Indians, and babies as young as 6 months old prescribed anti-depressants now adays.

Not all of us want to look like hard body barbie dolls, or be controlled by dietary phobias of so called elect, the rest of us like being soft and easy, like the dough nuts, hot, sweet, and fresh @ Krispy Cream, and the crackling sounds of wrappers.

Thank you all at the PI, for allowing this form of communication, Mr. Bishop, and the web constructors that highlight the PI in the sky, lol, in a different color than the others on my favorites list.

"Microsoft has filed suit against "viodentia," the pseudonym for the person behind the FairUse4WM technology for stripping digital-rights management restrictions from Windows Media files."

Keep on filing, filing in the summertime sun, filing 'til your filings all done, keep on filing.

Some people tell me not to use MSN, but what's it to them if I do or don't?

I hope filing suit continues against anybody stripping anyone of anything while at the same time trying to outlaw strippers.

#13403

Posted by unregistered user at 9/27/06 7:04 p.m.

DRM is a lost cause. Remember the 'CD DRM' that was defeated by putting a black strip around the edge of the CD? As a security professional and public figure in the Seattle Security community, MS is just getting plain silly. They announced a new 'security initiative' with the ISSA, which is a joke. They were once innovators, creating a better GUI for working on PC's back int eh eighties. Now, they simply look around at what works and copy it (think google, ipod, itunes, anti-virus soon to come, myspace, youtube, etc). They need to go back to their roots and start creating secure code for their OS, which should be step one in any SDLC methodology (Software Development Life Cycle).

F.O.S.S (open source) will eventually eat away their market share. To give credit where credit is due, they have made a lot of people very wealthy (early 90's employees, companies who make windows software, hardware vendors with optimized hardware for windows, etc). It's been great overall for the economy, except for the mal-adjusted real estate prices caused by the extremely wealthy early MS guys, who cashed out in 2000 @ 150/share.

But with DRM, it will never be controlled. As long as there are people like me, and many others out there, there will always be a way around DRM. MS is old and busted. Though most of my companies I audit use some form of MS environment, everyone always chuckles when we review security.

#13404

Posted by unregistered user at 9/27/06 8:16 p.m.

Watermarking has been suggested before. A good suggestion but it is not profitable enough to those who must profit or it would be done.

As to boycotting Microsoft, this gent is showing his ignorance of the current business and consumer worlds.

Business has been hijacked into the Microsoft monopoly; too late for them. Even the Deutschlanders have taken years to convert even simple systems. And they admit they cannot convert all of them away from Microsoft at this time.

The average consumer is too illiterate to move away from Microsoft. In fact that is one of the problems we "techies" perceive with Microsoft. In their relentless drive to maintain the monopoly they realized they had to make the user totally dependent on them. The most effective way to do this is to keep the software unstable (thus requiring constant connections to the "mothership" for aid) and to make it as LCD (lowest common denominator) as possible (ie, hiding as much of the technical facets as possible); otherwise known as enhancing the ease-of-use and linking to other, vital segments of our lives (eg, our stereo and entertainment centers). Media Center anyone?

#13412

Posted by unregistered user at 9/28/06 12:27 a.m.

===here's what everyone should do... boycott microsoft===
Yeah, I will not move to Vista too.
Sorry, but Microsoft has shown it's real face.Enough is enough.As a IT professional, I'm simply do not want to end up with my PC legally trojaned with DRM updates, WGA "feature" I do not need myself and other good "features" which are looking either as spyware or as trojan horses or as handcuffs.So, I'd been with MS since '95 and NT4 but now I'm simple can not trust to my PC with Windows.So I'm almost completed my move to KUbuntu.I'm better to forget about DRM updates, WGA and other spyware, viruses, system activation...

#13413

Posted by unregistered user at 9/28/06 12:34 a.m.

=== Watermarking has been suggested before. A good suggestion but it is not profitable enough to those who must profit or it would be done.===
Actually, it is easy to track down pirates so majority of users will afraid to pirate their music if warned about personal responsibility.

#13499

Posted by unregistered user at 9/29/06 6:21 a.m.

MS is about Money Greed and crappy code ....and taking it to to court.

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