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September 13, 2005

The return of the sidebar

image014-1.jpgMicrosoft showed a number of new Windows Vista features for the first time at its Professional Developers Conference here in L.A. on Tuesday -- including one that looked strangely familiar, in more ways than one.

That would be the "sidebar," shown at the PDC two years ago but not evident in public demonstrations as recently as the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference this past spring. The sidebar was back during the demonstrations at the PDC Tuesday morning, as evident in the accompanying screenshot. (Click for larger version.) The new incarnation will probably resonate with anyone who has used "widgets", the small applications that are part of the Dashboard feature in Apple's latest Mac OS X operating system.

Microsoft calls the small applications in its sidebar "gadgets."

For what it's worth, this also comes just a few weeks after Google released its new sidebar feature as part of a second release of Google Desktop Search.

Posted by Todd Bishop at September 13, 2005 11:38 PM
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My Gawd, even the trash can is OSX like.

Oh well, as far as "Vista" goes, Apple can only say,

"you're welcome"

Posted by: Mad Macs at September 14, 2005 09:20 AM

It is also worth noting that when Apple first unveiled Dashboard at the 2004 World-Wide Developer's Conference, they were calling their mini-apps "gadgets", and the files even had a ".gadget" file extension in the early developer previews of Mac OS X 10.4. Along the way they changed the name to "widgets".

Posted by: Ian Adams at September 14, 2005 09:56 AM

Aside from the notes in the article, that menu bar has to have the worst implementation of translucency I've ever seen. So interferring and jarring. Especially the gaussian effect it has on unfocused windows. One can only imagine the multi-layered fudge of several menu bars overlapping.

Thanks god they finally adapted tabbed browsing in IE 7!! That would've been fun.

I'll stick with Tiger thanks.

And Ian, It's also worth noting that Arlo Rose created Konfabulator (and coined the term widgets in this context) in 2000.

Posted by: ryan at September 14, 2005 10:48 AM

Actually if you want to go back to the original idea, it was called DA or Desk Accessories back in the glory days of MacOS 6 and up.

Posted by: Mike at September 14, 2005 01:47 PM

I'd call this pretty if I hadn't seen OSX (or even Enlightenment for that matter) before and the fact that Vista will take 10x the hardware to run half as smoothly.

Posted by: mottie at September 14, 2005 02:02 PM

and this is exactly what I was talking about on my site, where MS has no innovation, other than addng RSS to XP, like Retsyn. I mean, Ballmer even had to defend their lack of innovation to analysts.

Posted by: DL Byron at September 14, 2005 04:19 PM

Response to Mike: Actually, Desk Accessories (DA) go back to Mac OS 1.0 (of which I still have a copy 8-).

Posted by: Robert at September 14, 2005 05:11 PM

Widgets actually go back to Apple's Lisa OS (pre-1984).

http://www.guidebookgallery.org/extras/spotlights/lisa/photos/dersch31

Posted by: na at September 14, 2005 06:01 PM


A sidebar ! Holy Moly, and I thought the 3 Billion for Microsoft Research was just money down the drain!

Man, you guys just /reek/ of the words "Think Tank"!

Posted by: John Bailo at September 14, 2005 06:05 PM

It's easy enough to gloss (pun intentional) over old interface convention disasters, but why doesn't MS take this opportunity to fix them for good? Double-tiered tab bars are a usability nightmare from way back, no matter how shiny they may now be. And arbitrary configurations of tabs, breadcrumbs, and popup tab cluster thingies? Hey, I'm sure it's learnable, but there's no way that mess is intuitive. And by the way, MS, your folders are backwards and sideways (tabs go on the left). No interface is perfect, but I just mourn the fact that younger UI pups will be cutting their teeth on this visual hodgepodge, and I'm (speaking as a UI guy) the one who will have to clean up after them.

Posted by: scamper at September 15, 2005 12:41 AM

And Ryan.... Stardock's Object Desktop for Windows preceded Konfabulator and they coined the term "widgets" long before Arlo did.

Posted by: John at September 15, 2005 05:07 AM

the new taskbar with window preview = lame attempt to copy the dock.

Posted by: donut at September 15, 2005 05:14 AM

Erm... MacOS 6.0? MacOS 1.0?

That's System 6... and before that, there was no such thing as a "System" release.

Besides, all of those OS releases are freely available... Apple did not charge for an OS release until System 7.1 came out. System 7 Pro, and System 7.5, were the first full releases at full prices.

Posted by: Joe at September 15, 2005 07:24 AM

The latest invocation of Windows is going true to form: "Make it more like the Mac! -Bill Gates"

Fortunately Bill Gate STILL doesn't get WHY if it doesn't WORK like the Mac, with multiple users on-line at the same time, with security options that Windows users can only deam of, with a whole bunch of stuff, like executable and read-write group and user permissions, it ISN'T very Mac like.

Let Mr. Gates still never look below the surface and Apple will keep on being his R&D firm.

Posted by: Charles-A. Rovira at September 15, 2005 09:31 AM

Why can't Microsoft develop products of their own instead of ripping off other's far superior products?
Maybe they should be focused on actually creating something or their own, instead of their current 'smash and grab' philosophy.
The list of products they try to rip of is endless! What has MSFT ever really created???

Posted by: Jeff` at September 15, 2005 03:21 PM

fine, I'll be the dissenting opinion here.

if you REALLY want to claim "oh, we had this idea first" then you might want to read up on the Microsoft Research paper put out back in 2000 outlining the idea of the sidebar, then called the "sideshow" (bearing, of course, no resemblance to the auxiliary display now dubbed SideShow).

they've also had working demos of this product since the very first Longhorn alpha builds, predating anything by Apple, with original "gadgets" being called "tiles."

it's just like the desktop search. no, Microsoft didn't steal either concept. and even if they did? if we play the blame game here, nobody wins. this is about furthering the computer experience, not limiting the kind of software people write.

Posted by: Spencer at September 18, 2005 01:45 PM
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