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November 19, 2003

Linux, Microsoft and Mac

At a panel discussion on the opening day of Comdex earlier this week, one of the questions was about Linux and its prospects for attaining even greater market acceptance. Patrick Ennis, managing director of Seattle venture capital firm Arch Venture Partners, was on the panel, and he had some interesting things to say:

"If you spend a lot of time walking the halls of universities and national labs, which I do, it's astounding -- sometimes it seems like everything is Linux. ... It's not even an issue. It's like, 'Oh, yeah, we'll do that on Linux.' "

We used that quote in this story today on the open source movement's implications for Microsoft, but I didn't have room to include some of the additional things Ennis said when I spoke to him afterward. In particular, he explained that such intensive use at the college level would tend to suggest that Linux will continue to gain momentum in the business world as those students move into the work force.

But that’s not necessarily going to happen, Ennis said, citing the case of Apple Computer, which was unable to leverage its strength in education to overcome Microsoft’s presence in the corporate sphere. The problem, he explained, is that those students are generally low-level employees upon entering the work force, not in a position to influence purchasing. Whether Linux can overcome that and accomplish what Apple hasn't in that regard remains an open question, at least on the corporate desktop.

Posted by Todd Bishop at November 19, 2003 07:39 AM
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Perhaps if Linux had 'good' enduser products
it might show up more in the public arena.
More likely these students will do things in the
backroom effectively with the GNU tools of Linux/BSD.
But they will be read and manipulated by
the prettier Microsoft products.
Industrial bread-mixers, but Alessi-designed
toasters for the breakfast toast.

Posted by: Constant Reader at November 20, 2003 02:44 AM

Constant Reader wrote:
>read and manipulated by the prettier Microsoft products.

Prettier? I realize that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I've never heard anyone say that Microsoft products were prettier than anything. I certainly find them unattractive and counter-intuitive myself.

Linux enduser products are really fairly good. Gimp, Film-gimp, OpenOffice, Abiword, are all examples of fairly good programs that are steadily getting better. They are also more stable than many Windows products, and of course they are free. Comparing, say, Gimp to Adobe Photoshop, you will find that Photoshop is still the superior program for a professional, but for a semi-pro or a student the price differential tips STRONGLY in favor of Gimp. As students who use the Gimp (to continue this example), move into positions where they may use it in a professional environment, it should only continue strengthening the product. This can be true for all the Linux enduser products.

Posted by: Trevor Zylstra at November 20, 2003 10:51 AM

The main reason Microsoft products dominate in the corporate arena is the that deployment decisions are made primarily by IT people who are usually tied to Microsoft in one way or another.

Many IT professionals are trained on Microsoft products most commonly and do alot to spread FUD about alternate solutions.

Also, even though viruses and other issues cause alot of headache for IT pros, they also produce alot of work. Its a vicious cycle of job security and ignorance of management that non-Microsoft solutions might be better.

So, until this factor changes, not much will change in the corporate world.

Posted by: Occasional Reader at November 20, 2003 06:12 PM

The main reason Microsoft products dominate in the corporate arena is that Microsoft is still abusing its monopoly. Period.

Until Microsoft stop their predatory and illegal ways of doing business, not too much is going to change.

Posted by: Arglborps at November 20, 2003 06:55 PM

Ennis is in total denial. It is hard to understand how the Apple model automatically predicts the failure of Linux.

IBM is moving to Linux in force. Once IBM gets those PowerPC 970 based blade servers out in numbers, Microsoft will get destroyed in the server arena.

As soon as IBM gets its act together and puts a nice GUI on top of Linux running on a low cost PowerPC based machine (lower cost than anything Dell could build), both Microsoft and Intel will be in serious trouble.

Ennis, Enderle, and those that think like them are in major denial.

Posted by: JH at November 20, 2003 08:51 PM

JH: To clarify, he was in no way saying that the Apple experience automatically predicts the failure of Linux. (I'm not sure where you're getting that from what I wrote.) As I understood it, he was simply citing the Apple experience as an example to show that the widespread popularity of Linux in universities and research institutions doesn't necessarily transfer into such widespread popularity in the corporate world. But that doesn't mean Linux couldn't do what Apple hasn't. As the post mentioned, it's an open question.

Posted by: Todd Bishop at November 20, 2003 09:45 PM

Yes, thanks for clarifying. My main point was that vendor success in the business markets often is more challenging than success in the academic and scientific/engineering research markets.

There are many reasons for that. The best technology and the lowest initial cost product don't always succeed. Sometimes there are good reasons for this, sometimes there aren't (it often is random or inertia or active stubborness or some combination of all of them).

And of course, who gets to define "best technology"?

More specifically, my point about Apple is I think they were knaive about how to penetrate the business markets. Their huge share in academia (and trust me, I was a commited apple user from 1983 - 1992 when i was a scientist)didn't get them anywhere in corporate america.

Scientists are more trendy than businesses. There is good and bad that goes along with that...it is not a compliment for scientists nor a criticism of business. And like it or not, in the 1980s apple was more trendy among scientists. The real situation was much more complex, of course, as DEC was entrenched in the 1980s, as was Sun towards the later part of the 1980s.

So, this disorganized post doesn't say much other than the future isn't written when it comes to Linux. And don't discount the SCO legal issues. While it is trendy to be angry at SCO and think they are bad guys.....look into the facts, many smart people believe they have some valid legal claims. The history of Unix goes back a long way and its an interesting twisted tale....

Posted by: Patrick Ennis at November 21, 2003 05:56 PM
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