Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 2:55 a.m.

If we don't see this "Newton" Xbox controller by the end of the year...

I'll give "MY" Wii to the dust fairies.... oh wait. I already did. Infact it's covered in them!

Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 3:21 a.m.

Its an obvious copy on the Wii but M$ have never really worried over copying or monoplies and have always seemed to either buy out or infinge the other company to death..

I liked the wii mote but ending up selling my wii because the graphics were too last gen.. I am sorry after Mario & SSB were released but I spend so much time playing FPS I don't mind too much..

I own a 360 and a PS3 am a 33 year old gamer and just want to play games.. no fanboy.. a Wiimote for both the PS3 & 360 would be great clones.. Ok Nintendo thought it up first.. the other would have to eat humble pie for a few months and then watch the money roll in.. lets see how they Spin that shall we..

Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 5:50 a.m.

It will be a novelty, that's all. The Wii already has the install base and the only good games on there are made by Nintendo so you wont be seeing them on the 360. I think a huge majority of people will stick with what they know (they are casual after all) and buy a Wii instead. They will want to play with their mates who also have Wiis. I think 360 owners who cant afford to buy a Wii will buy the remote but there wont be many more people choosing to buy the 360 thanks to this. Xbox could be facing an identity crisis. "Casual or Hardcore? Oh wth i'll buy a PS3"

Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 6:02 a.m.

Why is it that everyone uses the M$ symbol. Does EVERYONE in America not realise the "Monopoly" that Sony has in its corner? They have "PURCHASED" MANY American Music Companies, Movie Studios, and Electronic Companies to put themselves in such a position of power that they have the capitol to "WOO" (AKA,BUY the loyalties of..) the few companies, AKA movie studios, to their BluRay format and to abandon HD DVD, that they can topple such companies an Toshiba and Microsoft in the format war for the next movie format?
They manufacture the hardware, They own the rights to the software - Both on the creative (Movies, Music)AND the hardware (TV, BluRay)end. Their purchase power has been their real show of force, Not their ability to innovate.
God forbid Ammericans open their eyes or should show any alegience to an American owned company.

Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 8:45 a.m.

""""""Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 6:02 a.m.

Why is it that everyone uses the M$ symbol. Does EVERYONE in America not realise the "Monopoly" that Sony has in its corner? They have "PURCHASED" MANY American Music Companies, Movie Studios, and Electronic Companies to put themselves in such a position of power that they have the capitol to "WOO" (AKA,BUY the loyalties of..) the few companies, AKA movie studios, to their BluRay format and to abandon HD DVD, that they can topple such companies an Toshiba and Microsoft in the format war for the next movie format?
They manufacture the hardware, They own the rights to the software - Both on the creative (Movies, Music)AND the hardware (TV, BluRay)end. Their purchase power has been their real show of force, Not their ability to innovate.
God forbid Ammericans open their eyes or should show any alegience to an American owned company.""""""

I agree with who ever this person is. I dont think no one noticed the price raise of Blue Ray & what Sony is doing in most of the Industry. But its funny how everyone noticed MS trying to buy Yahoo, & supposedly that would be bad??? This is America, not Asia people. Sony is not an American Company. Heheheheheheh oh wait we have a lot of Asians where I live. Oh, that explains it then.

Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 10:58 a.m.

You must be misinformed. . . Blu-ray consumer electronic companies are all members of the BDA. "The Blu-ray Disc format [by definition] was developed by the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA), a group of leading consumer electronics, personal computer and media manufacturers, with more than 180 member companies from all over the world." Sony is simply a member of the BDA board of directors and by no means do they receive all revenue from the Blu-ray Disc format, each company has it's own share of profits depending on what they contributed to the format. Sony plays a large role in the development and manufacturing of their own players and hardware but they do not have a monopoly over the format itself.

As for the Blu-ray software, it was developed by Java, just as HDi menu system (software) was developed by Microsoft for HD DVD. In other words, Blu-ray had to pay fees to use Java, just as HD DVD had to pay for HDi (Java wants their cut, as does Microsoft). On another note, it's pointless to argue about monopolies in todays day and age. It's all up for debate; put yourself in their shoes. They are in the business to make money, satisfying executives, and share holders. That's simply what they do, in a sense, it's business's idea of moving forward. GE does it, Microsoft does it, Google does it, why not Sony? They all go into the category of (up for debate) monopoly.

On the other hand, Toshiba, Intel, and Microsoft, were the major backers of HD DVD. Toshiba and Intel made the hardware, and Microsoft the software respectively. Toshiba was the only significant HD DVD hardware manufacture, namely because Toshiba marketed their players at such a low price they lost vast amounts of money on each player, in order to play catch up, among other reasons. In turn, causing other CE company's to turn to Blu-ray, where the money was at; they had profit margins, unlike their competitor. It's all about the money, to each side its own strategy. . .

Posted by 8bitjoystick at 4/9/08 11:27 a.m.

I will write more tonight. Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony are multinational corporations that do extensive manufacturing in China but have developers all over the world. They are not really all "American" or "Japanese". Take the Boeing 787 plane for example. It is assembled in Washington state but the parts were designed and manufactured all over the world. The Xbox, Wii and PS3 are alot like that.

Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 12:12 p.m.

It's not a copy of the Wii, it's just the same technology.
To be a copy of the Wii, the XBOX 360 would need XBOX 1 graphics and a built in 512 Mb HDD to replace any external storage solution.

Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 12:29 p.m.

...Its the same logic people (traitors) use when they buy foreign automobiles at the expense of the American workers and our economy....

Traitors?
Tora! Tora! Tora!

Americans cannot build good cars for the middle class. Americans can build trucks, from a Ford F-150 to a Ford 9000 sized truck, but that's about it.

Speaking of our great economy, what's the best brand of American made HDTVs?

Posted by 8bitjoystick at 4/9/08 1:00 p.m.

Microsoft had an IPO years ago and will sell their shares to anybody in the world with the money to buy them. Same with Nintendo and Sony.

Sure Nintendo has their global HQ in Kyoto, Sony in Tokyo and Microsoft in Redmond but they are all world wide corporate entities. Especially when you throw over reaching multinational trade deals like the WTO in the mix that can overpower the jurisdiction of local governments in favor of multinational corporations.

Last time I check Ford and Chevy made a lot of cars in Mexico and Canada using parts from China while Toyota makes cars in the US. I am more a reader of Noam Chomsky and William Gibson than Thomas Freidman but when your are talking about corporations in the 21st century it is a lot more complicated than saying it is "US vs Them". It is not as simple as that.

Guess where Microsoft has the Xbox manufactured? Mainland China, Taiwan and Singapore. The system is designed by teams in Redmond and California and the profits are dispersed globally to anyone that owns a share of Microsoft.

Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 1:33 p.m.

I love the 360, AND I have a Wii. Honestly, the novelty of the Wii's controls wore off as soon as I got into some really good games on the 360. It's not about the controller, it's about the games...and how seamlessly the controller integrates into the game. With too many Wii titles, I felt like the controller wasn't responsive enough and often led to errors.

If MS can perfect what Nintendo has started, I'll give it a try. But I think this technology needs to mature a bit...

I had the choice of playing Tomb Raider Anniversary on either console, but I chose the 360 over the Wii...I'd rather stick with standard controls instead of flailing my arms around while standing in the middle of the floor...telling people not to walk between me and the TV.

Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 4:07 p.m.

My xbox 360 was re-manufactured 4 times in Mexico.

Last time it came back with temporary work visa because it will only work for a short time in the US and then have to go back to mexico...

Posted by unregistered user at 4/9/08 4:34 p.m.

Microsoft is obviously trying to ripoff Nintendo's idea to cash in on it. I think it will fail. Anyone who wants this kind of controller will go for a Wii because the library of games is already large and popular.

Microsoft needs to take some ideas from Nintendo, but not this one. One thing that Microsoft can learn from Nintendo is how to have incredibly low failure rates. With the Wii, you can play 20 hours a day, 365 days a year and it'll be fine. Leave your 360 on too long or put it in a cabinet, and you have incredulous amounts of heat and 3 blinking red lights.

Posted by Geomancy at 4/10/08 6:56 a.m.

If Microsoft utilizes Newton as little as they have the Xbox Vision camara, this will be more a cosmetic than substantive accessory. If, however, they put nearly as much effort into it as they have working with game publishers and streamlining the online experience, Newton could be a significant addition.

Microsoft Gaming Studies couldn't hope to compete with Wii powerhouses like Mario and Super Smash Bros., but with a little work they could certainly produce (and encourage other studios to produce) higher quality gyration games than the plethora of crappy games clogging Nintendo game racks. That would be something: Quality motion-sensitive games, fully integrated into Xbox Live, broadcast in HD glory.

Posted by unregistered user at 4/12/08 7:07 a.m.

From what I've learned from internal sources at Microsoft I can collaborate that the Newton project...

--I think you mean "I can corroborate..."

Posted by unregistered user at 5/12/08 1:03 p.m.

M$ is playing catch up and has two very big hurdles to get over. First, the Wii has become a pop-culture icon not unlike the iPod. Ask anyone, gamer or not, about the Wii and they know what it is and what it does. Ask the same people about the 360 and how do you think the response will compare?

Second, the world's most successful game publisher is Nintendo and you won't see their games on anyone else's console anytime soon. That casual audience is no longer up for grabs and with so many Wii systems in homes already who's going to go out and buy another more expensive system to play the same kinds of games they are already playing? Sure current 360 owners will probably give this a spin, but the idea that this is going to draw people away from Nintendo seems weak to me.

In my opinion the 360 is going to have a rough year. The PS3 is gaining in popularity and Nintendo is widening the margin. Plus, the other two companies have successful handheld systems to go along with them. I don't think this controller is going to have any more impact than the Dual Shock 3.

Posted by unregistered user at 6/25/08 3:03 p.m.

there goes typical M$, they smell more cash and they want it

Posted by 8bitjoystick at 6/25/08 3:31 p.m.

Yeah that is the thing with companies… they are out to make money. Last time I checked Microsoft was not a non-profit and they had a responsibility to their share holders to do everything in their power to make a profit.